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ComeOnYouWhites! Newbie

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Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 1:17 pm Post subject: I feel let down by my company and boss |
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Ok, so here is the problem(s) I have got at work. I work for an aerospace company and I quite enjoy the job I do. Anyways, yesterday we were told that this other girl, Kim was gonna join our team to help with some more quotes because our customer is sending more units out. Ok, fair enough. The problem is she is already higher up than me. They are not going to promote me now because we don’t need 2 account exces. So i will be doing the same job as Kim - ill do more queries and stuff than her but I will get less money than her and be doing the same work but she gets the posistion i should have doing the same job but for several grand more.
Second rant.
There is a guy called Billy Bob who is English and employed by my company but lives in Hong Kong dealing with our customer. He is coming to visit and an email was sent round to all the big knobs, and Clare (my little boss) Chris (my big boss) and Kim asking them to confirm they are available to meet him next month. Where am i? and why is Kim on there? She doesn’t even know she is helping us because she’s on holiday and all of a sudden she gets to meet a guy I have dealt with for over 2 years and she has no idea who he is.Chris didn’t jump to my rescue and email back saying I will be available as i have been dealing with this customer for 2 and a half years. Why doesn’t he stick up for me? It takes Clare to threaten not to go to this meeting if i'm not included for him notice this and still he does nothing.Where is Chris -my boss? And why does no fecker outside my department know who I am and what I do?
Im gonna go mental soon. I mean fecking nuts at someone and I really don’t care. I don’t deserve to be treated like this. I am there everyday at 8.30 (9-5.30 job) and all my quotes are done well before the end of the day and i look after our customer when Clare is off.
This has made me physically ill and depressed. I went home and punched a few walls and damaged a few things and cried. I know that’s not the answer but I’m so frustrated by this and feel so let down. I’ve been doing my best for over 2 years and with no thank you or promotion. I dont know what to do. i'm hoping that my little boss sorts it out and when Kim is back she will say something to help me out. Our big boss, phill is scared of her so hopefully that helps.
Thanks for reading, i justed needed to tell a few more people. |
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lexa10881 Expert

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Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 4:16 am Post subject: |
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Sounds like you are a victim of inner office politics. I am guessing that you are younger in age also? and maybe this is why you are being abused/overlooked/disregarded? Have you bothered to speak up and speak out? if not, then there is no time like now. You have your opening, with this issue where she has 'inherited' your client. And someone else has tried to help by saying something. Speak up and claim what is rightfully yours, and do it now before you are doomed to this scenario for the rest of your working days there. Now, it is in the adjustment period and will not look so strange if you say something. It might look weird if you endure another six months of abuse and then say something.
http://www.cvtips.com/your_colleagues_helping_to_be_helped.html |
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ComeOnYouWhites! Newbie

Joined: 16 Feb 2008 Posts: 3 Career Advice: +0/-0 Location: BERKSHIRE

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Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 8:03 am Post subject: |
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| lexa10881 wrote: | Sounds like you are a victim of inner office politics. I am guessing that you are younger in age also? and maybe this is why you are being abused/overlooked/disregarded? Have you bothered to speak up and speak out? if not, then there is no time like now. You have your opening, with this issue where she has 'inherited' your client. And someone else has tried to help by saying something. Speak up and claim what is rightfully yours, and do it now before you are doomed to this scenario for the rest of your working days there. Now, it is in the adjustment period and will not look so strange if you say something. It might look weird if you endure another six months of abuse and then say something.
http://www.cvtips.com/your_colleagues_helping_to_be_helped.html |
Hi,
Thanks for posting. We are having a meeting today involving my boss, account manager, myself, the 'new' girl and our administrator who is still new. I am going to bring up my concerns which my manager did again yesterday when there was another meeting I was left out of. We are also having a meeting tomorrow with the directors. I am the second youngest, yes. Maybe that is an issue, i'm not sure. I will tell them how I feel today and if there is not a promise of improvement I will bring it up tomorrow. If I feel I have gotten nowhere then I will look for somethig else as I feel I am treated unfairly and overlooked.
Thank you for reading and posting! |
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Randy Expert

Joined: 03 Mar 2007 Posts: 406 Career Advice: +2/-1 Location: Vinton, VA

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Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 5:57 pm Post subject: Re: I feel let down by my company and boss |
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Repeat after me:
Employment equals exploitation.
But let's have a look see:
I work for an aerospace company
No, you don't. Not exactly.
You work "for" the company only because you're part of that organization. That "company" does not exist except legally, on paper, and because a whole bunch of you agree to play by the rules set up to give "life" to that "concept" of that company.
You work "for" your immediate boss, that's for sure.
Now repeat after me: Most managers and supervisors excel at three things only--covering their asses, passing the buck, and the fine art of sycophantizing (this is America--we butcher the existing language and make up new words all the time, like "conversating"--drives me nuts but I can play that stupid game, too).
THE truth is that you work for yourself! You are employed for YOUR benefit first, their's secondly. Okay, it's that way unless you believe that you should be willing to sacrifice yourself for their "greater good" and I, for one, would rather fall into a pit of face-eathing weasels than buy into that bs.
ill do more queries and stuff than her but I will get less money than her and be doing the same work but she gets the posistion i should have doing the same job but for several grand more.
Right. Medicority rules and slackers get the tangible rewards while competence gets screwed. I.E., no good deed goes unpunished within the world of employment.
Billy Bob who is English
Y'all have "Billy Bob's" over there? I thought they were unique to my part of the world. If you need more, I can send them along. They will, of course, bring their guns and pick-up trucks.
Chris didn’t jump to my rescue
Why should he?
Repeat after me: You are a "human resource." You can't expect them to care one bit about your "humanity" when you're of no more value than an ink pen.
And why does no fecker outside my department know who I am and what I do?
Because you've always been content to actually DO the work. Everyone else likes to play politics and see who can one-up the other in the brown-nosing department. It really is all a silly game, you know.
Im gonna go mental soon.
I went mental after about job #1 and am now at fifty-something. "Mental" is vastly superior, as far as I'm concerned, to becoming a mindless, soul-less, and heartless cretin who "succeeds" in a corporate/business environment.
I mean fecking nuts at someone and I really don’t care.
There's the line you don't cross, ever, period, end of discussion.
Ain't none of "them" worth YOU throwing YOUR life away, period, end of discussion. You can get angry and bitter and hostile and eat worms and dance naked under the full moon, but that's where it ends. This is when you must realize and know that the "universe" has its own unique ways of getting people like that. Your's is NOT to punish the guilty in life, simply do the best you can for yourself, show kindness to strangers, and try to leave the world a little better than you found it.
I don’t deserve to be treated like this.
Nope. No one does. But it's that "brave new world" of "globalization" and corporate greed and all the rest that few see as being the problem, not the solution.
I am there everyday at 8.30 (9-5.30 job) and all my quotes are done well before the end of the day and i look after our customer when Clare is off.
Yep. The WWII "work ethic" of "hard work and loyalty and dedication" was laid to rest a long time ago and like so many others, you didn't get the memo, did you?
This has made me physically ill and depressed.
Take one large dose of "screw 'em" and the, of course, repeat after me:
It's just a damned job.
Do you wake up beside those people? No. then again, for dramatic effect, screw 'em.
I went home and punched a few walls and damaged a few things and cried.
Crying is good! It means you still have what those around you do not: Heart. Crying shows you care about yourself and others. I cry a lot myself because after I've been on an "anger binge" like you describe, and mine last for days and days--eventually the body tires of the anger and "something" has to take its place. For me, it's the tears. I crash, hard, then regroup and start all over. I like me better AFTER I've crashed but, inevitably, within a few days "they" have pushed all my buttons and the anger comes back and the process repeats. I hated roller coasters when I was a kid, but I'll be damned if my life hasn't become one.
But enters at that moment all the beauty and joy of the "real world," the stuff of Louis Armstrong's "What a Wonderful World," the stuff that really matters. Employment provides the money for necessities in life, that's all. It's still true that the greatest and most important things in life are still free.
I’ve been doing my best for over 2 years and with no thank you or promotion.
Yep. It sucks, no doubt about it.
I dont know what to do.
It's Zen. You "do" NOTHING. You work, you go home, you live, you watch a movie, take a walk. IT IS JUST A JOB. All the rest? Ah, that's your life! Do you really want to throw away your life over a stupid-assed job, even if it is one you like? I doubt it, very seriously.
Stand on the corner and "hear" the Beatles' "Eleanor Rigby" inside your head as you watch the massed coming and going. Then stare up at the stars. Then look at the really old couple walking down the street, still holding hands. THAT is what matters and nothing else.
You will be fine, really. The most often used phrase in the Bible is...is what?
"And it came to pass."
NOTHING ever comes to stay, good or bad. It all comes to pass.
Face it: You and I are living in a world of Fred Flinstones with computers. Are you really surprised that things are as f*d up as they are?
Nothing but the best to you.
And in the meantime, rant, rant, rant. Contrary to the "experts," anger is not a bad thing at all. Acting on that anger in a way that harms others? Ah, that's bad, very bad. But acknowledging and expressing that anger? Very healthy. Why else do you think I sat here and typed all this. Long, crappy night at work (as usual) and you provided just the "push" I needed to fire away. I write a lot. I rant a lot. I also love, and that a whole lot more than the rest. It's just that we're stuck in a world that prefers money over love and human decency. But folks like you and I will be fine. |
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ComeOnYouWhites! Newbie

Joined: 16 Feb 2008 Posts: 3 Career Advice: +0/-0 Location: BERKSHIRE

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Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 7:30 am Post subject: Re: I feel let down by my company and boss |
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| Randy wrote: | Repeat after me:
Employment equals exploitation.
But let's have a look see:
I work for an aerospace company
No, you don't. Not exactly.
You work "for" the company only because you're part of that organization. That "company" does not exist except legally, on paper, and because a whole bunch of you agree to play by the rules set up to give "life" to that "concept" of that company.
You work "for" your immediate boss, that's for sure.
Now repeat after me: Most managers and supervisors excel at three things only--covering their asses, passing the buck, and the fine art of sycophantizing (this is America--we butcher the existing language and make up new words all the time, like "conversating"--drives me nuts but I can play that stupid game, too).
THE truth is that you work for yourself! You are employed for YOUR benefit first, their's secondly. Okay, it's that way unless you believe that you should be willing to sacrifice yourself for their "greater good" and I, for one, would rather fall into a pit of face-eathing weasels than buy into that bs.
ill do more queries and stuff than her but I will get less money than her and be doing the same work but she gets the posistion i should have doing the same job but for several grand more.
Right. Medicority rules and slackers get the tangible rewards while competence gets screwed. I.E., no good deed goes unpunished within the world of employment.
Billy Bob who is English
Y'all have "Billy Bob's" over there? I thought they were unique to my part of the world. If you need more, I can send them along. They will, of course, bring their guns and pick-up trucks.
Chris didn’t jump to my rescue
Why should he?
Repeat after me: You are a "human resource." You can't expect them to care one bit about your "humanity" when you're of no more value than an ink pen.
And why does no fecker outside my department know who I am and what I do?
Because you've always been content to actually DO the work. Everyone else likes to play politics and see who can one-up the other in the brown-nosing department. It really is all a silly game, you know.
Im gonna go mental soon.
I went mental after about job #1 and am now at fifty-something. "Mental" is vastly superior, as far as I'm concerned, to becoming a mindless, soul-less, and heartless cretin who "succeeds" in a corporate/business environment.
I mean fecking nuts at someone and I really don’t care.
There's the line you don't cross, ever, period, end of discussion.
Ain't none of "them" worth YOU throwing YOUR life away, period, end of discussion. You can get angry and bitter and hostile and eat worms and dance naked under the full moon, but that's where it ends. This is when you must realize and know that the "universe" has its own unique ways of getting people like that. Your's is NOT to punish the guilty in life, simply do the best you can for yourself, show kindness to strangers, and try to leave the world a little better than you found it.
I don’t deserve to be treated like this.
Nope. No one does. But it's that "brave new world" of "globalization" and corporate greed and all the rest that few see as being the problem, not the solution.
I am there everyday at 8.30 (9-5.30 job) and all my quotes are done well before the end of the day and i look after our customer when Clare is off.
Yep. The WWII "work ethic" of "hard work and loyalty and dedication" was laid to rest a long time ago and like so many others, you didn't get the memo, did you?
This has made me physically ill and depressed.
Take one large dose of "screw 'em" and the, of course, repeat after me:
It's just a damned job.
Do you wake up beside those people? No. then again, for dramatic effect, screw 'em.
I went home and punched a few walls and damaged a few things and cried.
Crying is good! It means you still have what those around you do not: Heart. Crying shows you care about yourself and others. I cry a lot myself because after I've been on an "anger binge" like you describe, and mine last for days and days--eventually the body tires of the anger and "something" has to take its place. For me, it's the tears. I crash, hard, then regroup and start all over. I like me better AFTER I've crashed but, inevitably, within a few days "they" have pushed all my buttons and the anger comes back and the process repeats. I hated roller coasters when I was a kid, but I'll be damned if my life hasn't become one.
But enters at that moment all the beauty and joy of the "real world," the stuff of Louis Armstrong's "What a Wonderful World," the stuff that really matters. Employment provides the money for necessities in life, that's all. It's still true that the greatest and most important things in life are still free.
I’ve been doing my best for over 2 years and with no thank you or promotion.
Yep. It sucks, no doubt about it.
I dont know what to do.
It's Zen. You "do" NOTHING. You work, you go home, you live, you watch a movie, take a walk. IT IS JUST A JOB. All the rest? Ah, that's your life! Do you really want to throw away your life over a stupid-assed job, even if it is one you like? I doubt it, very seriously.
Stand on the corner and "hear" the Beatles' "Eleanor Rigby" inside your head as you watch the massed coming and going. Then stare up at the stars. Then look at the really old couple walking down the street, still holding hands. THAT is what matters and nothing else.
You will be fine, really. The most often used phrase in the Bible is...is what?
"And it came to pass."
NOTHING ever comes to stay, good or bad. It all comes to pass.
Face it: You and I are living in a world of Fred Flinstones with computers. Are you really surprised that things are as f*d up as they are?
Nothing but the best to you.
And in the meantime, rant, rant, rant. Contrary to the "experts," anger is not a bad thing at all. Acting on that anger in a way that harms others? Ah, that's bad, very bad. But acknowledging and expressing that anger? Very healthy. Why else do you think I sat here and typed all this. Long, crappy night at work (as usual) and you provided just the "push" I needed to fire away. I write a lot. I rant a lot. I also love, and that a whole lot more than the rest. It's just that we're stuck in a world that prefers money over love and human decency. But folks like you and I will be fine. |
Wow! That was quite a reply my friend. Thanks for taking the time to write all that down. It was a good read an I agree that its not worth it if I do go mental. I dont think I would in that way but sometimes you just want someoneb to notice that you have had enough and that final button has been pushed.
I'm sure i'll be ok, maybe the crying will help when i'm fed up and angry.
Thanks for your reply! |
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CubeDrama Junior Member

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| Do not let this job experience shape you. You know what your abilities are. Start looking for another position, do not make the mistake of saying anythng negative about your current employer or co-workers. Your reason for seeking other opportunities shoud be just that "looking for growth opportunity". It is always easier to find another job when you already have one. Focus on opportunity, be proactive, your situation will change. Do not be a victim. Good luck, cubedrama.com |
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