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D_Ellis · Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 8:08 pm Post subject: Success dream

My dream is to get two degrees. One of them hopefully online, which would be Project Management. Followed by my real major in Entrepreneurship which I have shown large interest and collaboration in the particular area of study since I was young.

Marketing and such also interests me, and I am a firm believer in always trying to better myself and multiple sources of income. I enjoy debating on what would appeal to people more then the existing competition and what it would take to grip the market, introduce it to the martket, and make it costs substantially cheaper then the competition in building costs. Yet sell it for the same price.

Any ideas on how to obtain these, advice, experience in the field of study, etc.. Are all welcome and asked for, so please, join this thread for my current occupation is Student/Knowledge seeker. Wink

lexa10881 · Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 4:07 am Post subject:

I am currently exploring this path, both a little excited and nervous. I finished a bachelor's in art some time ago, and after discovered a fascination with computers, so I recently enrolled in online courses to get a 2nd degree in IT. Little bit scary because sometimes the postings on here I read about IT say it is bad. But I am thinking about IT as far as the multimedia experience and not being a diehard programmer, though this school is tough and has turned out some good techies. If you are interested, i say get yourself in touch with a collage career center or admissions office and find out what you can do. I was scared about how long it might take, or the money....online is the way to go for a second degree or if you are trying to work a lot while doing college at the same time.

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Randy · Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 5:45 pm Post subject: Re: Success dream

quote="D_Ellis"

Followed by my real major in Entrepreneurship....

See? I'm old and this is the stuff that drives me nuts. By definition, at least when we used to write on stone tablets, "entrepeneurs" were men and women who went out and did things, or a specific something, their way. So you mean now people have to be taught, by someone else who is NOT an entrepeneur on how to be one? ARGH.....My brain hurts. Shocked

Marketing and such also interests me...

Oh, marketing is very easy and requires nothing more than the most casual observations of the human condition. The result is exactly the amount of understanding of "human psychology" required to sell anything to anybody.

E.G.: Two can of green beans are on the shelf. One is dented. Will it ever sell? NO! Don't ask me why. There's nothing wrong with the contents but it doesn't "look" good so no one will buy it. The stores know that. That can will wind up in the dumpster and yes, after an inventory and all those "shrinkage" experts come in, all hell breaks loose and they all sit around and debate on why the numbers are all screwed up.

Here's another: Customers exist, I'm convinced, to damage merchandise. See above comments about dumpsters and people obsessed with "shrinkage". But will they ever "blame" the customer? No, because a "good" customer is someone who will spend one-dollar in your store and damage ten.

And no matter, always offer a "money back guarantee". Americans seem to by hypnotized by this and me, I've always wondered why, if the product or service is so good in the first place--why the guarantee? If you suspect I might want my money back, it's not THAT great in the first place.

It's hype, you know, and nothing more. "New and improved" is inherently self-contradictory. It can't be both at the same time. But it continues to sell, sell, sell.....

Also know that people will buy absolutely nothing unless there is entirely too much of it to begin with. Remember those green beans? Put ONE can on the shelf, straight from the green-bean farm, and that poor little can will sit there until the Jolly Grean Giant comes back and takes it away.

Ah, but surround the little guy with 500 MORE cans of the same thing and, sure enough, you'll sell that one and probably another fifty or so. But what about all the rest? Eventually, yes, they, too, find there way to the dumpster.

You see, under the new business model, it goes this way (both for sales and production): "It's not what you throw away that matters, but only what you sell." So we make a billion loaves of bread, sell a million, and everyone applauds because the profits are so damned good!

True numbers from a production facility where I worked. They operated on what the vp called an "80/20 rule". If, at the end of the day, you made one-hundred "widgets" and eighty were fit to ship but you threw away twenty, guess what? You had a GREAT day? Yes, you can tell I still can't get over that insanity but, hey, it's a new world, I reckon.

I enjoy debating on what would appeal to people more then the existing competition...

What "competition"? There's a handful of major players doing the production/importing and a few more doing the selling. Surely you're not thinking in terms of "ma and pa"?

and what it would take to grip the market, introduce it to the martket,

Master the art of hype and bullshit because that's all it is. And I'm serious, really.

What's the purpose of an automobile? Right. It gets your from here to there. Simple. But THAT won't "sell" a car, now will it? So add the blonde in the bikini along with the six-pack of Bud and the voice-activated stereo and the rest of the hype and BS and, Viola! You just sold a car!

The rule is this (and I'm not making this up and it's something I'm betting you already know), at least this is how it used to be said: "You're not selling the steak, you're selling the sizzle." Oh, that makes me want to puke...and I love steaks.

and make it costs substantially cheaper then the competition in building costs. Yet sell it for the same price.

Ah, the real motive: Profit and, of course, greed.

Well, in that case it all comes down to the FIRST rule of business:

Slash payroll!

I'm at a loss to understand why any of this requires "college" at all except, of course, those are "the rules" these days. Again, it's all very simple human psychology at work. The tragedy is that people are damned determined to perpetuate the same madness while simultaneoulsy complaing about how crappy this country and the world is. I'm sure glad there's no connection....

I'm sorry for sounding so cynical and I do wish you nothing but the best.

D_Ellis · Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 2:40 am Post subject:

It's not the learning process that im saught after.. It's the degree and the mere fact that I have no interest in any other particular major and want the college experience.

Also, only few people think like yourself and I. You are born and entrepreneur.. Not learned. So im not contradicting myself if im not trying to learn anything persay..

lexa10881 · Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 4:36 am Post subject:

I think a lot of people underestimate where degrees will take you, or the necessity of such. It is just so frustrating, because I know people who I swear cheated in college or *something* because they have no common sense yet they hold this magnificent degree and are making tons of money while smart people like myself have a degree and are barely making it and seeking out another degree in the hopes of something better still.

Sigh.

I say do what makes you happy, and what is your dream job. Because if you hate it, even if it pays well, it will never be worth it.

Good luck!

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