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Katja144 · Expert Joined: 22 Aug 2005 Posts: 177 Career Advice: +2/-0

Sounds like a nice law! (well, unless you're an employer and have just hired a complete loser because no one could tell you they are a complete loser, I guess)

In the U.S., it's definitely that anything goes (it's one of those labor laws I don't like, kind of like the ones where there's no cap to number of hours you can work in a day or where an employer is not required to give you a meal break). I would think they should at least be required to PROVE what they are saying about you!

Debstwocats · Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 6:27 am Post subject: Hi

Hi Katja

I wouldn't say any English law is nice as so many people literally get away with murder, but to give someone a bad reference is not a good thing.
They may have had trouble with someone in work and that's why they are disruptive or absent from work there could be any reason for the employee not to do their job properly but it is up to the employer to find these things out and put them right, in my opinion.

Everyone has off days or days when they are not well but some people go to work instead of staying off because of the pressure of work.
I know I have done it before but I believe in putting 100% into my work always have but even I have been dismissed before now - and that was due to a difference of opinion from a supervisor.

Employers should take care of their staff and listen to them and not make hasty decisions because there is always a reason for an employee not to do their jobs properly.

Sign of a bad manager when they just sack someone and not find out why.

America is great at looking after animals and that's 1 thing in USA's favour but they should look after their workers too.

erathwomen · Newbie Joined: 05 Jul 2007 Posts: 2 Career Advice: +0/-0

Hi. Since you were only at that job for 2 months, you might consider removing it from your applications completely. Go back to your alma mater, go to their career center. Make sure your dossier to up to date, make sure your professors are still willing to be references for you and go back on the search as if you'd just graduated. 2 months is really nothing and if the person at that job is saying bad things about you, you shouldn't be using that reference anyway.

You're not at a dead end, even though it feels that way. If you can afford it, while you're job searching, you might do some volunteer work. Employers like to see it and the person who supervises you can become a reference.

Job searches are jobs in themselves, but you'll make it if you persevere!

HOPEDIAMOND · Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 9:40 pm Post subject: Re: Hi again

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HOPEDIAMOND · Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 8:37 pm Post subject: Re: Hi again

[quote="HOPEDIAMOND"][quote="Debstwocats"]If i can help I will that's for sure.

I left a horrible job 15 years ago because I believe 100% my so called supervisor was very disturbed. He made gross sexual comments to me, got into my security file illegally and spread information that was in there about me around to other people, then when questioned about it said he had not been doing anything of the kind, in essence, (he lied through his teeth). I also know that for the last 15 years he has somehow been finding where I have worked since, been calling my employers, sometimes to tell them what was in my file, sometimes I believe just to continue his vendetta against me. Some have believed him, some have not, but most have had doubt put in their minds, (which is just what he wants). People advised me not to go to a lawyer to sue him because they said I could put $20,000/30,000 down on the line and end up losing it all, and I don't have that much money, so I didn't. I have spoken to a lawyer and he said he can probably get a restraining order for me if his investigator can get some of these people to talk. I have put that on hold because the last company I was at, I brought it up in the H.R. meeting and I think the H.R. rep did take care of it there because I did not hear the usual talk or see the usual looks. However, they eliminated my job at the end of last year, I have signed at a few temp agencies, and I believe this monster is getting ready to start all over again. I went into sign the papers at a temp agency yesterday for a job I was going to start monday, I sat down at her desk (she told me to), and low and behold I saw a request from the company that he is at requesting a person from the temp agency to start immediately for that exact same position I am looking for. It feels to me that he may have contacted my references and told them to contact him if they get call from anyone, and it sounds like one of them probably did, that is how he found me so fast. I also believe that "hell on earth" company may have put him in a hiring position in the H.R. office so he could easily continue his vendetta against me. What should I do? I don't want to see him in any way, shape, or form. I detest him, I will be celebrating and throwing a party the day he dies.

AmericanPhoenix · Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 3:54 pm Post subject: Bad Refernces

I have been abroad in North America for the last 14 years and it was customary, before I left England, not to give such a thing as a bad reference.
One must present ones own reference list and it would be totally at your discression as to who you would prefer guiding your efforts.

References are not simply people with whom you have been employed, or have been employed by, but anyone who you know that may hold a significant standing within your community surroundings and with whom you have had personal and professional conduct, correspondence and relationship. Length of time in that association is also a consideration.

If you can't say anything nice about a person say nothing at all!!

albertjr · New User Joined: 01 Apr 2009 Posts: 6 Career Advice: +0/-0

Debstwocats is right
His right find a job and you love it, In that way if you love your job then I'm sure your doing your best. That's the thing the company wants to see from you. Now if your planning to change your career, then it's not yet too late.
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irnbrumad · New User Joined: 19 Apr 2009 Posts: 6 Career Advice: +0/-0

right folks, this is a complex one and one in which I could really do with some advice.

I was recently dismissed from my employer who is made up of many divisions. The reasons for dismissal I wont go into but I believe it was unfair and I am in the process of an appeal.

However, while all this is going on, I did apply to the same company but to another division. However, just a few days ago, I got a call form the other division and they have booked a telephone interview for me.

At first I obviously found it strange. Now, my dilemma is that I dont know whether or not they know what happened in the past because i did get the call from HR. But how could HR not know?????

Secondly, if they dont know, should I tell them, im guessing I should as they'll eventually find out anyway and if i lie it wont look too good and i'd probably get dismissed again???

My telephone int is in a few days time. Would really really appreciate some advice on this.

Thanks folks!!!

Pauloz · Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 2:03 am Post subject:

irnbrumad · New User Joined: 19 Apr 2009 Posts: 6 Career Advice: +0/-0

Hi,

Thanks for the reply pauloz, much appreciated.

As for H.R though, I'm still finding it difficult to understand how or why they would overlook the initial dismissal. Afterall, it is the same company. Isn't there usually a timeframe before I can reapply to the same company?

I'm afraid that as soon as I tell them what happened they will say no.

What is the best thing to say to the all important question, "so why did u leave ur last role"?

I have a rough idea as to what to say but some guidance around this also would be welcome.

Thanks a million,

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