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JK · Newbie Joined: 07 Sep 2007 Posts: 2 Career Advice: +0/-0

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: my first time ever posting a message

Everywhere I read, I am told "never tell the boss you are looking for another job!” But, I feel I do need to tell him before the traditional 2 weeks, maybe before the 30 day mark..

I love my job and I am loyal to my boss. That is why it is important that I give my boss ample notice that I am planning on leaving. There will be a lot to prepare for when I’m gone.

Please tell me your thoughts on my situation. My goal in this post is to find out "how" to tell her, when and what exactly to say.

These are the reasons I want to let my boss know I am going to be leavening soon.

*It would be very difficult for the whole institute if I was to leave with only 2 weeks notice. I help keep things running smoothly and a lot of clients emotionally depend on me.

*I want to help my workplace prepare for when I'm gone because it will be hard for them to find a replacement with the (low) salary offered (the very reason I am leaving).

*My boss has been my mentor and has always taken me under-her-wing. I would not feel right, just "up-and-leaving" with giving her mental preparation.

When I was promoted to this position, I accepted a salary that was less than I wanted. I did this because I wanted the management title and experience. In conversations with my boss, I expressed that I was unsatisfied with my salary and my limited prospects to get it to a higher level In these conversation, I have said (maybe twice) "I won't be here forever. At some point, I will move on....". We both knew, at that time I wasn’t looking for another job.

But now, that “move-on” point has come. I am presently preparing my resume and researching, how I am going to find my "dream job" with a reasonable salary. This job was my first professional / management position. I want bigger and better now.

I believe my problem is I am worried about leaving my mentor scrambling to keep things together once I go.

My biggest mistake – I admit- has been that I have said in passing to some of my friend / subordinates and co-workers in other departments, that I am "now on the job market" and " if you know of any openings let me know..." (Breaking rule #1: don’t tell anyone you work with you are going to quit) Have I already sunk the ship by telling these people?

In hind-sight this was very stupid and I am concerned that my boss may get wind of it. I don't want my boss to find out from anyone but me. She knows I am stressed and underpaid. She has shown concern about my stress level.

Should I tell her in one of our conversations that I am preparing my resume and preparing to going on interviews?

I really want to maintain a good relationship with her after I leave. I feel her mentorship would be very useful and I want to stay in contact. Plus, I could really use a outstanding professional letter of reference from her.

I already know that I must immediately stop letting people know that I am looking for another job. But what do I do now? Question

Should I tell her? Question

How?

And when?

How do I ask for a letter of reference under these circumstances? Question

Please give me your thoughts Idea

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EmilBarnabas · Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 8:40 pm Post subject:

Be honest and tell your boss that you are looking for other work because you need more money to live. Tell her that you really enjoy the work, but just can’t work at the current salary level. If your boss really appreciates you and your work, she will try to raise your salary.

If she can't get you more money, hopefully she will appreciate the honesty and will continue to appreciate your work until you actually leave. And your honesty should get you high praises on a recommendation letter.

Talk to her now before she hears about it from someone else. Tell her that you want to meet with her to discuss your work.

You need to get over the "company needs me" mentality. (Ouch, did he really say that?) Sure you want to make it a smooth transition when you leave, but if it’s going to be so hard for them to find a replacement, then the company needs to do something to rectify the problem. It’s their problem, not your problem!

I don’t mean to be uncaring to your clients, but if the business really wants to be a business, then they need to create a way to transition between employees.

lexa10881 · Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 1:25 am Post subject:

If you are that close to your boss and have an idea of how they will react, and if you think you can explain things to your boss without causing upset....sure. Do it. But try to tell your boss that the reasons that you feel the need are not to undermine but because you think it is time to move on. State that you have always considered them to be a clsoe mentor and friend and would like it to remain that way because you admire them and their successes. BUT...ONLY divulge this if you are almost certain the outcome will be favorable. It sounds like you might be ok, but others have met upon employment death and been let go by the hands of such a "friend" because of theit honesty. In a good scenario, your boss recognises your good intentions of giving plenty of notice and might even help you out with a promotion offer or by helping you find something better.

Be careful.

http://www.cvtips.com/how_to_resign.html

ank06 · Expert Joined: 20 Sep 2006 Posts: 248 Career Advice: +1/-0

ugh....this should be difficult Very Happy

..But not impossible so if the relationship between you and your boss allows it, you can announce him you are about to go, that you've been given a great opportunity and you would like to take advantage of it. I'm sure he'd understand. Just thank him for having you in his company, tell him how wonderful everything was and assure him of your continuous interest and availability, should something appear.

http://www.cvtips.com/r/resign_positively.html

lexa10881 · Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 12:57 am Post subject:

Ank, very well put! Yes, just because you are transitioning from one job to another does not mean that you have to lose a friendship. I hope that you are able to retain your boss as a friend; if he reacts badly, it is not your fault. And if it happens like that, give him a little time to cool off. But most likely he wil just be upset to lose you as an employee, and still retain your friendship. At least, he will if he is a good friend.

http://www.cvtips.com/loyalty_to_employer.html

JK · Newbie Joined: 07 Sep 2007 Posts: 2 Career Advice: +0/-0

Well, I decided to tell her when she poped by my office and asked me "how things are going?..." I told her "...well..." and explained that I plan to leave soon. She was dissapointed yet understood. We disscussed ways to make it a smooth transition. Yesterday she announced to me that she also was planning to leave to bigger and better things. So now I'm thinking, I will ask a raise of this new boss coming in. Get it or not and probably still eventually move on.

Any thoughts...?
(other than on my poor typing / spelling skills..lol)

lexa10881 · Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 3:53 am Post subject:

Well, bosses are human too. I never thought that maybe your boss wanted a transition also. You guys can still remain friends even after one of you has left. As for the other, if you want to try getting a raise out of them then why not? But you will have to prove yourself first; it might be easier to get a raise from your current boss. However, you kinda blew that when you said you wanted to leave. It might look now like you said that just for the raise. First, decide what you truly want. Then, prove yourself. THEN, ask for the raise after a reasonable amount of time [IF you stay].

http://www.cvtips.com/pay_rise_tips.html

shyamalav · Newbie Joined: 20 Jan 2008 Posts: 1 Career Advice: +0/-0

Hello there JK,

I would like to say it at the very outset that yes you must tell your boss. Though it might not shock her since she is aware of your situation and I think she would start thinking about dealing with your absence. If you do tell her
though she would be very appreciative of you. I am saying this because most people quit the boss not the job. The relationship you have with your boss is something to be treasured. I am not trying to make it melodramatic but if you don't maintain the relationship now you might not get another chance. One is considered blessed to have a good boss. Anyway, please don't fret over it. Just let her know. Oh yes what you said about [b]"I believe my problem is I am worried about leaving my mentor scrambling to keep things together once I go."[/b]. Just a thought that you could offer to train the next person taking your place or leave with her a list of your activities, business contacts, how you worked or dealt with the activities, so on and so forth. Cheers and I really hope this will help. I would always cherish having a good boss so I think your relationship with her should be untarnished.

good luck Smile

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[quote="JK"]Note Exclamation

: my first time ever posting a message

Everywhere I read, I am told "never tell the boss you are looking for another job!” But, I feel I do need to tell him before the traditional 2 weeks, maybe before the 30 day mark..

I love my job and I am loyal to my boss. That is why it is important that I give my boss ample notice that I am planning on leaving. There will be a lot to prepare for when I’m gone.

Please tell me your thoughts on my situation. My goal in this post is to find out "how" to tell her, when and what exactly to say.

These are the reasons I want to let my boss know I am going to be leavening soon.

*It would be very difficult for the whole institute if I was to leave with only 2 weeks notice. I help keep things running smoothly and a lot of clients emotionally depend on me.

*I want to help my workplace prepare for when I'm gone because it will be hard for them to find a replacement with the (low) salary offered (the very reason I am leaving).

*My boss has been my mentor and has always taken me under-her-wing. I would not feel right, just "up-and-leaving" with giving her mental preparation.

When I was promoted to this position, I accepted a salary that was less than I wanted. I did this because I wanted the management title and experience. In conversations with my boss, I expressed that I was unsatisfied with my salary and my limited prospects to get it to a higher level In these conversation, I have said (maybe twice) "I won't be here forever. At some point, I will move on....". We both knew, at that time I wasn’t looking for another job.

But now, that “move-on” point has come. I am presently preparing my resume and researching, how I am going to find my "dream job" with a reasonable salary. This job was my first professional / management position. I want bigger and better now.

I believe my problem is I am worried about leaving my mentor scrambling to keep things together once I go.

My biggest mistake – I admit- has been that I have said in passing to some of my friend / subordinates and co-workers in other departments, that I am "now on the job market" and " if you know of any openings let me know..." (Breaking rule #1: don’t tell anyone you work with you are going to quit) Have I already sunk the ship by telling these people?

In hind-sight this was very stupid and I am concerned that my boss may get wind of it. I don't want my boss to find out from anyone but me. She knows I am stressed and underpaid. She has shown concern about my stress level.

Should I tell her in one of our conversations that I am preparing my resume and preparing to going on interviews?

I really want to maintain a good relationship with her after I leave. I feel her mentorship would be very useful and I want to stay in contact. Plus, I could really use a outstanding professional letter of reference from her.

I already know that I must immediately stop letting people know that I am looking for another job. But what do I do now? Question

Should I tell her? Question

How?

And when?

How do I ask for a letter of reference under these circumstances? Question

Please give me your thoughts Idea

….

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