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I need help living a simple life
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Rob
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 9:21 pm    Post subject: I need help living a simple life Reply with quote

So I'm 19 years old and haven't had a steady job... I don't know what career I want... but I do know a few things such as: I don't like what's happening to society, I don't enjoy working indoors or doing anything that isn't for an important or noble purpose (I'd rather be saving someone's life than flipping a burger for them)... I really dislike the modern world, how so many people take advantage of what they have... The rich upper-classes are growing more and more rich while there are children in the world starving to death...

I consider myself a hopeless romantic because I'm deeply in love but I fear that the world is going to pull us apart by not allowing us to survive, or by taking up all of our time and not allowing us to enjoy each other's company while we can... I love nature and I love to help people, but I want to be able to spend time with my wife when we get married... It would be ideal if I could get a job where she can work with me or be in my company whenever we want... All I need is enough money to pay the bills, what's really important is the type of work im doing... I want to do something that is going to benefit someone in some way... I want to save people, help people, give to people... I just don't know where to begin... and where to live... If I live anywhere near a city or in an urban environment it really makes me depressed... whenever I drive by a bar it gets me down and I feel sad for society because I cannot stand anything bad, drugs and violence, promiscuity, these things just get me down and depressed, and I need to get away from them... so if there's some country that has a nice countryside to live in, some place far away from the corruption we see every day, it would be ideal for me to be able to live there and survive (unfortunately money is necessary, and often a lot of money...)

I don't know if im making much sense, Im kind of desperate, if anyone could offer me some help advice or anything it would be greatly appreciated... I'm very lost right now because of all of the things going on in my life... which I wont talk about here but suffice to say it's enough to make some people go crazy... I'm just patient and calm, and hopeful...


I've been doing a lot of research and I've sent out a few emails, here's two I will paste because it might help detail what im interested in... but my scope is much broader than this, im just trying to offer every sort of information about myself and what I need in order to get some good replies...

[Online job possibilities?]
I'm naturally gifted when it comes to giving advice and helping people... But I myself need some help. I'm interested in being a counselor for people who are suffering problems and need someone to talk to, or to get advice from... Mostly with questions dealing with life and spirituality, people who are suffering inside. I can help these people and I would love to be able to... The thing is that I need a job as well, and it would be nice if I could make money doing this, just enough to pay the bills so I don't live on the streets... life is very complicated now adays and I am just a humble person who wants to live a simple life and enjoy it and help others enjoy it as well.

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I really don't like the fast city life and I don't care much for tv and games... I want to spend my time in nature, or being able to help people in some way... I was wondering if you have any advice or job opportunities perhaps for me--something within a national park or reserve--all I need is enough money to survive, I simply want to have the opportunity to enjoy the fresh air and outdoors... I love to rock climb and hike and work with youth... I have had a lot of experiences that make me a good peer advisor or counselor.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 5:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe a job in the natural sciences, either to save the environment or to help animals? You might also consider nursing or something that helps people. Any of these will require schooling; if you do something that your love also does then there is an increased chance of sharing you r day and maybe location if it requires traveling. First decide what you like and want to share together, including career.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 9:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Forget the online job possibilities because it is obvious that you should work with people, outdoors. From what I have read and from what I can only assume, you'd be great as a volunteer at the beginning and then as a member of an ONG or something. I can see you're a family man, even if you don't have your own family...yet. I think you should establish some priorities and degrees of availability. Are you willing to travel, are you willing to make sacrifices and what would those imply? Have you ever thought of havign your own business? This could actually be a good choice because you will not depend entirely on a system which you hate so much.
I have also observed that you have a paradoxical nature....your profile is that of a lonesome person, but you do want to work with people and for the people. So the steps you take in life seem to be harder for this matter. I'm also thinking you're quite afraid of the unknown because otherwise you would try to risk getting into something just to feel how that is. I'm talking about a job. You seem to expect for the right thing to come but it's difficult when you don't really know what THE RIGHT THING for you is.So you gotta try some things in order to find the best one.

Ok....I'm gonna finish now...lots of talking....

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 12:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unfortunately, when you're young, it becomes a matter of "take what you can get and try to gain enough experience and skills that you can hopefully later apply for the sort of jobs you actually WANT to do."

I feel much the same way as you do. My "place" certainly isn't as a bank administrative assistant or doing data entry for the gov't and I'd far rather be doing something for Habitat for Humanity or HRC or something...but, in the end, those places passed me by

You may end up doing what you have to to get by for a while and volunteering on the side and try to work up to what you want to do later...
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 8:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks everyone for your advice... And Julian I was impressed by your observations... I am a hermit, I stay by myself because the world around me makes me depressed... But I'm in love with a girl who lives far away from me and I want to be with her but I don't have a career and I don't have a goal... I want to move some place peaceful and relaxed... I was thinking about Thailand perhaps because of the monastaries they have there, I could perhaps give motivational and spiritual speeches for a living, and volunteer helping people... I don't know exactly, but I really need to get away from the buildings and cars atmosphere... if you know what I mean...

Thanks again, best of luck to everyone
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 3:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know exactly what you mean. The world's too damned noisy, too fast-paced, and 24/7 is slowly driving us all insane but thanks to brilliant marketing, most people think it's the greatest thing in the world. Commerce and consumerism are killing us all and damn it, that's the way we like it!

Nothing but the best to you. Leave a light on for me if you find "that" place. For me it's sitting on my kitchen floor, in the middle of the night when the house and quiet.

The "solitude of the soul." Most of the world hates it because it leaves them confronting just how truly empty their lives really are. They have great jobs, lots of money, and no damned life.

Oh, hell, this one's my hot-button......I'm outta here.....
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 3:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am good at helping these people who, as you said Randy, "have no life". I have a lot of spiritual insight that helps me through the trials of life and have allowed many miracles to work throughout my days... I wonder if there's a way for me to make a living, do you think, by teaching this to people and helping them to explore their souls? That way more and more people could get away from the material life, which you described, and begin to realize the true essence of what makes us, as humans, happy, satisfied, and enlightened...

I've thought about this, but I wonder what steps I should go by in order to do so... where I should do so... etc... I am very spiritual, but not religious, however I have read a lot on Buddhism which, in the relation to spiritual happiness and meditation, has similarities with what I've experienced and what I believe, so I am thinking of perhaps going to Thailand to live and see if I can find more wisdom within the Buddhist circle, to help me reach a higher level of this spirituality.

Thanks Randy, and if there's anything I can do to help or you want to talk about, let me know, I'm a great listener and I love to help people, even if it's just to help them "vent". Razz

Take care, good luck, peace and love
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 4:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

quote="Rob"

I wonder if there's a way for me to make a living, do you think, by teaching this to people and helping them to explore their souls?

You're on slippery ground here, and you already sense that, I'm sure. Despite the most noble of intentions and genuine help and insights, the second the exchange of monetary value enters, there's the very real risk of cheapening the whole thing for all involved.

Think "television evangelist" and you get the idea.

That way more and more people could get away from the material life, which you described, and begin to realize the true essence of what makes us, as humans, happy, satisfied, and enlightened...

But the inherent irony is, naturally, that it's *their" focus on materialism that affords them the luxury of rewarding *you* financially for, in essense, doing their thinking and investigation into spiritual matters for them! And maybe that's part of the whole grand design, right? I mean it's for sure that there will never come a time when *everyone* is going to say, "To hell with all this working and making money. It's madness and I can't take it any more." So there is clearly a convenient synergy going on.

I've thought about this, but I wonder what steps I should go by in order to do so... where I should do so... etc... I am very spiritual, but not religious, however I have read a lot on Buddhism which, in the relation to spiritual happiness and meditation, has similarities with what I've experienced and what I believe, so I am thinking of perhaps going to Thailand to live and see if I can find more wisdom within the Buddhist circle, to help me reach a higher level of this spirituality.

Between you and me, it's very easy and entirely too convenient to lay claim to great "spiritual" insights and enlightment while living in an environment relatively free from the madness you'd be presuming to tell others how to escape, or at best, endure with a modicum of sanity. Face it, anyone can be "one with the universe" when surrounded by the calm and serentiy of nature. It's quite another to do it with the sounds of subway trains and overhead jets and piped in music and blaring car radios and and all the rest.

Put this way: I'm not a gambling man, but I bet the Dalai Lama would lose his "oneness" in less than a week of being out there with an over-the-road truck-driver. "It's enough to make a preacher cuss" is more than just a saying. It's the truth of our way of life.

The trick, of course, is to try to instill in people a sense of contentment with their lives they now have. Learn a little gratitude and maybe the insatiable greed and cravings for more, more, more will slowly subside and eventually, just maybe, things will settle down for all of us.

You take care of yourself. Just don't get so busy looking for "the" way or "a" way that it gets in the way of what life has in store for you. Being a "wounded healer" pretty much bites.
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Between you and me, it's very easy and entirely too convenient to lay claim to great "spiritual" insights and enlightment while living in an environment relatively free from the madness you'd be presuming to tell others how to escape, or at best, endure with a modicum of sanity. Face it, anyone can be "one with the universe" when surrounded by the calm and serentiy of nature. It's quite another to do it with the sounds of subway trains and overhead jets and piped in music and blaring car radios and and all the rest.


I agree, which is why I claim to be spiritual in the first place... Let me explain why...

At age 10, my mom got up and left my step-father, who raised me since I was a baby, because he was drinking too much, and I saw him attack her, and I pushed him across the room with the pure adrenaline I had for needing to protect my mother... We moved thousands of miles across the country where I lost all contact with relatives, friends, etc... It was as if everyone I ever knew vanished...

Growing up I started hanging out with the wrong crowds, drinking alcohol and smoking marijuana starting at age 11...

After my first year of high school I decided to recline, sit back and watch people, no longer hanging out with crowds or making friends, I became a loner... I sat in my room every day smoking pot and playing video games while I listened to my mom and her new boyfriend argue...

Her boyfriend is a crackhead and he has been cussing at her for years, and still to this very day I hear him calling her bad names and yelling at her... I give her good advice and it helps sometimes, but she ultimately has to choose for herself. I hear her cussing and screaming back, she has clearly suffered emotionally from this, not to mention she just found out she was adopted, and that explains why her "father" used to hold her at gun point and beat her...

Due to all of these strange and random experiences I've had through my teenage years, I became a hypochondriac... After 9/11 happened, everytime I would hear an airplane I thought the worse... it made my heart race, sometimes I would panic... Two years ago I rediscovered my Christian values, and started focusing on the bible... Then about a year ago I became a muslim and devoted myself to learning about Islam... For months I studied the religion and its teachings and I learned more about Islam than most born-muslims know from their entire lives... This was something I found out by talking to them in the Masjid (mosque, or place of prayer) and being complemented on my knowledge and understanding...

I've always been more pacifistic in my life, seeking not to hurt others, but struggled with rage when I was younger... I quickly learned to control that, going from hot-tempered to very calm and collective, even to this day (as I can tell you, I haven't hurt my mom's boyfriend even though he treats her badly, he hasn't hit her, and even if some people think he deserves to be beaten up, I somehow manage to control myself and time is the wisest counselor)

I live next to an airport... I hear planes going overhead all of the time, my little 4 year old sister is constantly screaming and acting out, I suppose it's a result of her parents constantly cussing and screaming at each other... My mom also babysits another child, who is about a year old, and I constantly hear him screaming... We struggle with money and jobs, my car broke down and now it's worthless, my mom's boyfriend has gone through 9 jobs in the past year... and we just got our house put on foreclosure...

But through it all, I am very happy, and as I said, spiritual. I don't cry for help or lose my self-control... I remain firm to the belief that patience is a virtue, and love conquers all.

I didn't see any psychiatrists, or counselors, or doctors... I conquered my hypochondria by myself... Through studying Christianity and Islam, I discovered the truth, I thought and trained myself and looked at life, and I learned what all religions have in common... love... Thus I learned how people get to "heaven" and what heaven is, and why it is important for us not to waste our time fighting over religions and seeking religious "truth"... If there was a "THE TRUTH" that god made for everyone, then all of the wonderful people from "the other" religions would suffer... You can see how terrible this god would be to allow stuff like that to happen...

Also, if god sent a book, it would be beautiful and loving and have no flaws, and everyone would immediately know it is from god... no such book exists because many people deny many books... And if they are denying a book because god makes them deny it, then that is not a loving god who wants everyone to be happy and peaceful and free...

What did god send? He sent love... And who are is messengers? Anyone and everyone who spreads love, and goodwill, and seeks to sincerely help others... Mother Teresa is a good modern example...

For Christians, who think they have to merely believe in the name Jesus to get to heaven, I ask you to replace the words "God" and "Jesus" in the bible, with the word "Love" and then to read it again, God and Jesus represent love... Is it enough for us to say with our mouths "I believe in God" or "I believe in Buddha, or Jesus" but not to act upon it?

If you tell your mother, "I love you" but then you hit her, or cuss at her, or mess up her house... What kind of love is that?

But if you are blind and mute, and you hug your mother... without ever telling her you love her... She knows you love her... even though you can't see her...

If you can love your brothers and sisters on this earth, then you already love god, and god loves and knows you...

The word "God", god as entity, whether god is a personal or impersonal god, or even whether there is a god doesn't even matter, you can simply not believe in god, that's okay, its our choice, but what does matter is LOVE... Everyone can agree on this... Atheists, agnostics, satanists, whoever you are, if you love one another and help people, you're a good person, and you have nothing to be ashamed of...

Karma exists, love is a force of nature... The more we hold to love, show love, and believe in it, the greater our lives become, the more love is attracted to us... And when we die, we die peacefully and our spirits are free... From there it doesn't matter, whatever we loved, will come back to us... It will orbit around us... That is "heaven"... If you loved your wife, and she loved you, the two of you will be together in the spirit... How do I know this? Because you can see the echoing effects of the soul throughout the physical universe... Look at how the planets orbit around the sun, look at how birds and bees are attracted to beautiful flowers... What is heaven? Is it you being forced to do something you don't want to do? No, it is beyond your wildest dreams, whatever you think perfect is, it is greater than that... But...

As I said, none of this matters... and nobody knows for sure because once your spirit leaves this body, that's it. What person has come back from the dead, truthfully, with a true understanding of the "afterlife"... It doesn't matter! What matters is the here and now. Love and peace, goodwill towards all, for as long as you can. Do these wonderful things now, help one another while you still can, and whatever happens to you after you die will not matter, because you were a good person and you made the world a better place... You have something to smile and be happy for... This is so beautiful, why can't people see?

This is what my spirituality has discovered, I didn't read these things in a book, I stopped and put down the Bible, the Qur'an, the internet... I sat and meditated I focused on my heart... I heard my heart... My spirit, my soul, spoke to me, and our souls have more wisdom than anything physical here on earth... Listen and follow your hearts if you want the truth...

The truth will set you free...

It is a beautiful thing, the truth. It exists to help us and to free us, the truth is simply love...

So, when you say that some things make a preacher cuss, well, I'm not a preacher... And nothing makes me cuss or lose my cool... Even when my beloved mother is called a "b-word"... I know this life is too short to get angry and hurt one another, I am a healer and guardian... I know these bodies and minds of ours are only made of matter... The energy that drives us, that spark of life, is our soul... Our spirit is what is at work, controlling our brains, allowing us to live... That is how a perfectly healthy 20 year old can suddenly die, when there's no physical reason for him to do so... It's because his energy has left his body.

Our energy will continue to live, forever, and ever and ever... When these bodies are gone, no matter how badly they were treated, cussed at, spit on, beaten... If we stayed strong and grew in our spirits, then our spirits will soar...

I know one day when my spirit leaves my body that I will be in paradise, what is paradise? I don't know, I don't care, why? Because it isn't important. These are the things of the future, and nobody knows the future, because it doesn't exist yet. But what I do know is that as long as I hold to love, patience, and good virtues, that I will prosper in the afterlife, and it is my earnest desire that others are able to do so as well...

People ask, what is god like, what is heaven like, what about hell? is there a hell? These things don't matter... If you're a good person, and you love others and treat them good and help them, then what worries should you have? The only people who should worry, are those who do not love others or help others, and what they should worry about is finding a way to love and help others, that is all.

I do understand that asking money for these services is ridiculous, I hate it as well... I would never charge someone, so I wouldn't make money doing it... But I thought of living off of donations, or government aid or something of the sort... I thought if I lived someplace like Thailand that these monks in their monastaries have a way of survival, so should I. And I don't care, because like I said, I am patient and I know time is the wisest counselor, so something will come up, it's only a matter of time... But I will continue seeking and asking questions, to learn, in order that I may be prepared for what may come.

Peace and love to you all Smile
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